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01 September 2009

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I like it! Clearly you've received a good education, largely courtesy of Tico U.

...Chuck

I am quickly finding myself in the same kind of boat in which you are floating. Unemployed at 59 after 40 years of steady work and having spent all of my 401 K and then some to keep my modest life style for the last 15 months has left me in a state of wonder...I am wondering what happens next. I am watching your situation with more than just a passing interest.

I know of and email regularly an older gentleman who moved to Costa Rica 6 years ago. He found himself in a situation similar to mine only he was a bit older. He seems to have landed on his feet in Orosi and is living a modest life while trying to get used to the Tico culture. I suppose there is nothing very unique about getting cut loose from an economy. It's just that we Americans have no social net to fall back on as they do in many Europoean socialist countries. We are a throw-away work force and Costa Rica looks like one of the places some of us choose to dump ourserlves. That suits me. I love the place.

I hear you, James. Sorry to hear about being afloat after so long! I'd say "come on down" but it's getting harder and harder to immigrate here. They are changing the laws which go into effect next Feb, so hurry. Unless you have a pension or substantial savings, you have to be a perpetual tourist leaving every 90 days. That can be fine if that suits you. If you can work online or get a teaching job (which will give you a work permit), excellent. It will be a modest lifestyle but it's a life. Medical care here is cheap! If any of this sounds appealing, come on down! Pura vida.

My understanding of new immigration rules has to do with a small increase in guaranteed income requirements. Are there other restrictions? My plan is to hold on here until early retirement in a few years.

After talking with a few expats, the biggest problem I see is a disenchantment with CR after a while. I think that stems from expectations. Happiness is dependent upon the ability to adjust expectations to one's situation. So many expats, coming from a frantic consumer society which is in a perpetual feeding frenzy find it difficult or impossible to adjust to a quieter and less materialistic society in Costa Rica. They expect the same availabilty of US consumer goods and the same level of service. After lifetimes of pursuit,aspiration for and consumption of these goods and services, expectations are difficult to adjust downward. I should think it would take more than a few years to adjust.

From a pensionado's point of view, yes, the income increase is small: from $600/month to $1,000/month. But from a rentista's pov (we are rentista), it is relatively huge. From $60,000 in the bank for five years to $250,000 in the bank for five years. This will cut down on rentista's quite a bit. If you are holding on till early retirement, you will fit in the former category, very manageable, I think.

Yes, disenchantment. I think you hit the nail on the head. Culture shock is it. I think reading about it helps and I think the ability to travel back and forth after having made a commitment to living here for at least three years (one or two is just not enough) to ease the shock goes a long way to lasting thru the hard times (moments really).

It's not luck at all. It's your ability to make lemonade from lemons. The smart ones survive here and learn to live within their means, like you did. I'm so glad you came and stayed in CR. You and your family are amazing and a good example for others!! -t

The thing ex-pats have to realize is that in Costa Rica it is their culture, not ours, and we have to adjust to it. It also helps immeasurably to know or learn Spanish! We really should make that effort, that is the native tongue. I have heard too many Americans say that immigrants to the U.S. should learn English. The oppsite is also true.

I don't think anyone here is saying "those ticos better learn our ways." Some people are just not able to adjust to a foreign culture. They aren't bad or wrong... just aren't able to for whatever reason. It's hard as hell to do - after almost four years, I'm still working on it. And the language. Yikes.

For the record, I don't say immigrants "should" learn the native tongue. I don't care one way or the other. If you don't learn it, though, don't complain when you can't get along.

From $60,000 in the bank for five years to $250,000 in the bank for five years.

Is that real? You can pretty much guarantee that rentistas would practically be extinct. Its basically families planning to move that are affected by this. Here's what will probably happen, 1) pensionados won't be affected much. 2) almost no more younger family types would migrate, those absolutely determined would have a kid born there 3) younger guys planning to move would marry for convenience.

Yep: you nailed it. They are changing the baby back door policy somewhat but I don't know those details. And they say they are going to crack down on the marriage thing... I guess cameras in the bedroom?

The thing is it doesn't benefit them in any way - they don't get to touch the $250K. It stays in the rentista's name and personal bank account. Unless having the bank be "richer" in deposits helps the gov? The only way they may benefit is by having a richer expat on the ground.

But, you know, rich expats don't shop at Mas x Menos... maybe they want expats here but outta sight except in Escazú... I can't figure it out.

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